I may be that and no they don’t.
I see my friends at the Dylan Shelter have a long thread on the PTSD articles I posted last week.
The opinion I’m about to quote captures the typical beatdown victims receive for having the gall to recognize what’s happened to them and to consider it important. Grizz’s response is instructive for handling the sheer dicksuckery that comes with the territory of constructing an accurate personal narrative:
…Of course theres lots of horrible things happening in life I have nothing but pity for sufferers of PTSD, women and kids who are abused physically and mentally ,what civilised person wouldnt? unfortunately amongst all the genuine heartache you get this encouragement of being a victim. Let me give you two examples…
(Deleted, computer exploded)
…so whose the victim,my parents for being terrorised and traumtised by the brat [a large 16 yr old lump btw] or the kid for the society he found himself in.
Anyway,the point of all this rambling, yes there are lots of terrible things and people need as much help as possible, but lets be honest theres also an awful lot of exaggeration going on to avoid the truth and responsibilty too…
“but,lets be honest theres also an awful lot of exaggeration going on to avoid the truth and responsibilty too”
Yes, by you.
…YOU are the one AVOIDING. You are avoiding understanding.
Or even trying to.
This booklet is about trying to be able to function better and that makes one more responsible, not less.
I expected you to react like that
“function better” just byte sized rhetoric, there used to be books like “self improvement” and “how to get friends” in years gone by. Thing is you put up these things and dont want anyone to think outside your box, so how long do you want to argue the point? you just dont want to read anything that goes “off-message” do you?
If you bothered to understand the point I was making …believe me, as well as the genuinely depressed,abused etc theres quite a lot who take advantage, boy you must be really gullible if you dont see that.
The points you make are nothing that others haven’t encountered.
You think what you say I haven’t heard before? Or read before? And heard of before from professionals?
You confuse reality with another reality – you conflate fraud with genuine need.
And with it, you throw out need. Or taint it.
Need is need, and there is no purpose in taking the suffering who have the courage to try to alleviate their suffering and suffuse them with shame and gilt through your so called needed comparison or critique.
I have no patience for such heartless and anti -productive thinking.
Nor any for the brush of any close-minded charge they may wish to paint me with.
This is only a “debate” to you, Landy.
How anybody could criticize a thorough booklet on PTSD is beyond me.
For that is not so much another position offered, unless one of head-in-the-sand qualifies.
Landy’s critique is low-hanging fruit, but it gets the job done in shutting victims up, which is why it’s so prevalent and will never go away. So we bite the apple, chew it up and spit it out.
People victim bash when they believe in the just world theory. Bad things happen to bad people, so if they are good bad things won’t happen to them.
I don’t know how to get through to these people. You have to get passed their belief, which is used as a shield to ward off reality. What’s important is not letting them get through to me, which has been done to death and I have the scars to prove it.
This is how far they take it, victim bash to make the problem her. Her melodramatic navel-gazing and unbelievable claims are what’s wrong around here, the lazy, spoiled bitch who lacks self-responsibility and won’t shut up. The status quo works but for these wrecking frauds, she is what needs to change, not conditions, laws, mores, privileges, the species, the world or best of all, me.
And victims come with a convenient victim schema that enables them to crumple upon hearing this and revert to self-destructing in secret, which is what she, being a victim, is programmed to do. I wonder if victim bashers know of this power they wield? I’m trying here, but I got dark thoughts.